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You do have access to the danish discord Jabra. You left it yourself, and my latest message to you was the invitation to the discord which you had asked for.
Stop going around it, stop spreading false information. And stop blaming people for doing something without any proof. Stop coming back to ksf. You hate us, and we hate you. Move the fuck on, and never come back.
Thanks. You have pretty much ignored everything I have said. I feel like I'm done here. Simex that account is deleted.
Also, this post have served its purpose.
Thank fuck, see you in another 2 months when you find a new reason to come back I guess
So the purpose was attention, lol fucking knew it. Cant wait till you come crying back in a few months again. Actually I can, pls dont.
Now when I'm done with my main mission, proving that KSF doesn't deal with defamation, even though being informed - rahter promoting it if anything, though that can't be directly proved because they exclude their victims.
I wanna comment on you Stevo. You are claiming that I spread hate, whilst having no evidence. But this is from you:
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Originally Posted by weisss
this
https://pastebin.com/cCWCJPiY
There is more. I wonder how much remorse you have from spreading hate.
I would like a public retraction of this statement, Jabra. That is NOT what I said.Quote:
Originally Posted by Michael.Viera
Here is what I said:
"i do not think he came up with every single one of those routes."
Here is the proof:
https://imgur.com/a/jN6p0Qq
So, I demand a retraction, and public apology for spreading these lies. Thank you.
I don't wanna get lost in detail. Stevo asked you to post my movie, you denied it because you said "most of these didn't he even found".Quote:
Originally Posted by Sony
It's obviously hard to discuss when I'm excluded from the place of evidence, you can cherry-pick as much as you want. You can also delete everything.
And that's one of the problems with you guys. You talk about conflicts and then exclude one of the parties from being heard which the conflict is revolving around and paint whatever picture you want of that person. You don't care about hearing both sides of things that happened. That's utterly disgusting and immoral. I'm not here to get involved in KSF. I'm here because you have involved me. Stop involving me.
Damn Sony we're forcing him to be here :/
And never really leave the community :/
Even Sony if I am wrong about that I would never ever exclude you from being heard. But that's how you behave
"Stevo I could join Discord because I made a new account. I commented on the allegations - I was immediately banned. Why don't you take it seriously when you are informed about straight-out libel on your community? Why do you just ridicule it and ban people?"
I'm pretty sure it was you who banned me here, Soney.
And about Sam I wrote
"And yeah, act like "where is your evidence for that?". Well, if we actually imagine it is a lie. If we ultimately stretch it that far and give absolutely no credibility to my assertions, then why didn't Sam at least take it seriously when I told him about it? I told Sam about it in his PM; he replied "Happy Valentines" which made me laugh tbh, but at the other hand it was amaeturish. If I was informed about such defamation in my own community I would have immediately checked it and dealt with it profesionally instead of joking about it with a mocking manner."
And lastly, don't compare being accused of lying about how many routes that were mine in that video compared to be hanged out as a violent criminal
Ever :/
Leave me for once and all from your disgusting hate - and I would be miles away by now.
Soney baloney
I find it funny that the one claiming others to have a "hatred against innate biological characteristics such as autism" is the same person that is calling others retarded xd This man can't go 2 sentences without contradicting himself
This guy is a genius. He pretty much ignored every single point I made and focused on some completely insignificant part of what this post is all about.
I have never mocked a retarded, but used it to describe a disqualified utterance - which literally thousands of people on the internet do everyday. You can discuss how appropriate it is, surely.
People have not just used autism in a negatively charged way, they have used it against me who has publicly revealed I have autism (because it seemed that it had been leaked so once I decided just to say it publicly on Momentum Discord). This is completely incomparable.
Edit: Looking back at this part. It was kinda weird that this guy pointed this out whilst one of his own leaders from KSF Clan used to call himself Retarded as a meme name on Reddit and still does. Actually that is the guy called Sam lmfao https://www.reddit.com/user/Retarded_irl/
I couldn't care less about the rest of this thread as I'd be reiterating what everyone else has already said to you, keep telling kids to kill themselves xoxoQuote:
Originally Posted by Michael.Viera
Great, because then I should reiterate what I had already replied to them. Bye.
Neither of the examples you posted involve spreading hate. Like I've stated many times throughout this thread, those actions aren't tolerated anymore from any vip or admin. Most people change, you haven't.
In terms of examples of you spreading hate, the surfer hate list you made is all the evidence I need. I could post screenshots of your interactions with simex, sam, and your various heated arguments in the discord and on the forums over the years, but at this point I don't think it's necessary.
What should I change, lol? Give me an example. You have never ever apologized for your misdeeds. You just casually skip over them and say "that doesn't happen any longer".
You have never ever shown remorse for those times. Synki has never ever shown remorse. Skandy has never ever shown remorse. I can go on.
I didn't spread my list. My list was leaked from the Danish Discord, lmfao. So that's an example of one of your KSF members spreading hate. Oliver or Simex I assume?
edit: I wrote more about the hate list later in the thread. Today I figured out that I even myself said back when I wrote it that the hate list was for fun and shouldn't be taken seriously, but that context was not included by the guy that spread it, whoever it was, prob., Oliver, Simex, or Proga. The reason why the hate list became a thing was because Paragon pinned it on the Danish Discord, and really nor Paragon or me thought it was a problem because as I have said, I had marked it for fun. I was writing about everything between heaven and earth on the Danish Discord, so yes, if you do that, you are eventually gonna slip controversial stuff out. Despite of that, I was still aware enough to mark it for fun.
Talking about lengthy lists, I have on the other hand also written the lengthiest love list in the surf community. https://youtu.be/HSEtjdCfk4A?t=765
No, no, let's not talk about that, doesn't fit into the narrative. And let's not talk about the way that KSF never credit the mappers on Youtube that indirectly create all their Youtube content. Only I do because I'm such a toxic person.
So once again, everything has been deprived of context with regards to that case. Just like we know KSF. Defamation and lies as usual.
It does involve spreading hate to abuse one's power. In each of these heated arguments I'm presenting totally valid points. That's not spreading hate. That's arguing passionately for something. What triggered those heated discussions on KSF forums? That was admin abuse. So no I didn't spread hate, I complain about an issue, I cared about an issue, I argued in order to tackle an issue. That is not spreading hate.
You are literally the only people who have spread hate. Especially about me. We have a whole section of you spreading hate (ofc. not every of these threads are valid), much of this hate have you never shown remorse for and never been punished for.
https://ksfclan.com/forum/forumdispl...?37-Complaints
Why do you continue with this. You keep finding new shit to talk about because you can't defend yourself and whatever shit you find I can use against yourself.
I have shown remorse. Can you prove otherwise? No, I guess not.
Nobody leaked your hate list, you posted it. Can you prove otherwise?
This is why evidence is necessary. You still haven't provided any. You've already made countless alt accounts to join the ksf discord. What's to stop you from doing it again?
Does caring about an issue necessitate actual hate speech? https://gyazo.com/0500f953b355212c89f8ea3c9e1689a5
The screenshot above is an example of hate speech regardless of whether you were insulted first.
In the context of the 'admin abuse' you posted above, it doesn't. You mentioned cherry-picking in your earlier post, that's what you're doing now. You've only provided screenshots of events that happened years ago, and as I said, KSF has changed. This entire thread was made because of something that never happened. I'm continuing this because you continue to contradict yourself.
edit 21. february when I asked mr.gmmbearz
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mr.gmmbearz:
well i cant remember him saying sorry to me
maybe he did though
Edit 24. February when I asked Weiss : https://imgur.com/a/jjaPuOt
Edit 19. april: To anyone who actually think I'm a racist, check this https://imgur.com/a/bI5bvhI and check the first post on page 9 as well
You didn't apologize to me. That's already a prove so why would I trust you? Obviously, you have never shown remorse. I talked with Gmmbearz about one of these incidents that he was involved in. He didn't tell me about any apology and we are good friends. You are definitely lying. Should we ask Weiss?
Surely, that's not appropriate. But you completely ignore the time this was written in. Just looking at the first thread where Beetle complained about racism that KSF members were involved in.
https://imgur.com/a/PWKPadf
https://imgur.com/a/Kn4nmnk
It's also funny you use that example. Because who introduced "muslims" in that debate? That was one of your KSF members. How many KSF members liked that comment? Well, look here.
https://imgur.com/a/Yk5IYyI
Again. It is you KSF members who spread hate. I merely adopted what seemed appropriate in the discussion.
Don't say that I was somewhat responsible for this culture.
You say that I have never provided evidence for anything. I have answered this before. It's not even the necessary point of this thread. Why do I have to repeat myself?
Where is your evidence for that?". Well, if we actually imagine it is a lie. If we ultimately stretch it that far and give absolutely no credibility to my assertions, then why didn't Sam at least take it seriously when I told him about it? I told Sam about it in his PM; he replied "Happy Valentines" which made me laugh tbh, but at the other hand it was amaeturish. If I was informed about such defamation in my own community I would have immediately checked it and dealt with it profesionally instead of joking about it with a mocking manner.
Is Sam now going to deny that I wrote to him? Lmfao. I have deleted my conversation with him. I have this at least.
https://imgur.com/a/WLWowJl
Stevo I could join Discord because I made a new account. I commented on the allegations - I was immediately banned. Why don't you take it seriously when you are informed about straight-out libel on your community? Why do you just ridicule it and ban people?
Are you going to deny that as well? There were many eyewitnesses that day. https://imgur.com/a/A5xtP6J
Nobody leaked my hate list? Are you absolutely insane? Why should I even prove that? You accuse me of spreading it, that's your task lmfao.
So once again. You bring hate speech up. I put it back in your face. Just continue with this, Stevo.
Discord gives IP ban.
Apologize to you for what exactly? I'm friends with bearz too. Perhaps he neglected to mention it because you didn't ask. I've talked to weiss a number of times since then. I believe I did apologize, but it's been years. You still can't provide evidence which states otherwise.
Beetle did complain about racism and harassment, and as a direct result of that KSF has changed for the better. Just because that behavior was commonplace back then doesn't mean you had to take part in it. I'm not denying that ksf members have spread hate in the past, I'm saying that you have and continue to do so. Repeating myself again, ksf has changed. Those people were removed from ksf because of their actions.
Evidence is necessary because you're threatening legal action. Of course you have none, so that would never happen.
You've made countless alts which have been banned before. An IP ban isn't an excuse. Just join the discord without interacting with anyone and search for your proof. Nothing is stopping you.
Admin abusing me on numerous occasions. Even if that is true, Stevo, it's kinda word against words. But I have at least now got you to admit what you have done is wrong - thank you :) Good job. That you had admin abused. Admin abusing necessarily entails spreading hate, and you are amusingly accusing me of spreading hate.
You talk about the "historic past" that KSF went away from, but yet you use that historic past to pinpoint my examples of hate - hate that was encouraged by colleagues from your own clan. That's pretty amusing.
I wrote already on the second page that my goal was not legal actions. I don't wanna repeat myself again and again.
I can't join the Discord when I'm banned. I can't just create a new account because they work as IP bans.
I stressed my final point. It is not about providing evidence just. You can deny this. Obviously evidence matters. But I warned you about this and did nothing about it. I warned Sam, I wrote on KSF Discord. I was ridiculed and banned as usually. Thus I can conclude that KSF don't take libel seriously.
If you're referring to me banning you 5 years ago, it was to stop you from abusing your own admin abilities.
I've done a lot of things on ksf in the past that I regret. I was young and less mature.
I don't know how you haven't realised, but I've been using past examples to 'pintpoint examples of hate' to show how little you've changed, and how much ksf and its community members have.
Alright fine.
And I will also admit what I did back then was immature. There was admin abuse, I had a point, but the way I tackled it was wrong and also abusive.
But it was by no means comparable with the unconditional admin abuse for the sheer gratification of lust that some KSF members participated in.
e: And to the reader, I was kicked from the clan and permanently banned from KSF, and socially excluded. But the real admin abusers were never punished.
You haven't provided me any good examples of hate. I have for you now, the way I tackled my admin role back then :) But this hate was also initially encouraged by other KSF members by admin abusing people. I made many good points back then. I introduced the concept of following a procedure. The concept of legal basis. I introduced the concept of an admin that protects people from admin abuse. I wasn't just being abusive by any means. If some of these concepts were applied back then, we would never have stood in this situation. In fact, the two first concepts are so fundamental that it is impossible to not have admin abuse on KSF (since they are not applied). Instead, you have banned 5 letters and act like you are morally superior. It's a fucking joke.
So I can't really see how I spread hate. What I did to Simex was hate, yeah. Sam abused his power which he still hasn't provided any argument for. Abusing one's power is hate. And no, I'm not to provide evidence for that, then you don't understand the concept of burden of proof. After that incident, I went insane. So that's again an example of KSF members initiating hate (which hit Simex). This is the conflict where you have totally excluded me from being heard which is utterly disgusting.
Also, I guess Simex or Oliver spreading my list that was confidential on KSF Discord. Once again spreading hate - you got that one back, sorry bro.
Sunday falsely reporting newcomers' records - ask Gmmbearz. I experienced it myself when I played under my alt account as "new player". That is hate.
Sam trashtalks my autism - that is hate. Ask Otter, he has also criticized this which I think was cool. When even your manager participates in hate speech, how do you think that sets the example for the "non-toxic culture of KSF"? It is basic organization theory that managers set the example for an organization's culture. I have been banned at KSF at numerous occasions for defending myself - that's hate. And no, don't say I don't have evidence, don't goddamn reverse the burden of proof - especially when you brought it up.
https://ksfclan.com/forum/showthread...1863#post21863 This is in 2019 less than 2 years ago where Masterbeta admin abuses, and then his victim acts in frustration and say something stupid, but it's only the victim's fault apparently, KSF members say nothing to Mastabeta who initiated the fight. You blatantly admin abused (or supported) a victim, apparent for everyone, for less than 2 years ago (just imagine all the shit that happens in the discrete) without the least fucking expression of empathy for the victim - and you guys are trying to convince me you changed? That's another one of your top managers being involved in abuse, Sacred. Again a good guy to set a great example for the non-toxic culture on KSF and who have shown a lot of remorse privately probably; maybe it is also about time to do so publicly?
All this shit is recently so I still don't understand why you act like you have the moral high ground? You don't fucking. Get out.
I still haven't seen a reply to why KSF doesn't take libel seriously when they were warned about it BEFORE THIS THREAD? Isn't it hate to ban and exclude someone from the possibility for dissociating himself from sending threats? Regardless of whether those accuses were sent, your first mission as a professional organization should be to examine them after my inquiry. But you rather exclude that guy and silence him and bully him like those fucking morally corrupt disgusting beings you are. Get out of my life now and put your disgusting hate aside for once and all
Note I have edited the post above numerous times. I guess I'm done. I don't think there is more to it. I apologize, Simex. Bye.
I feel obliged to side with Mr Viera here, even though he is obviously bat shit crazy but 10 vs 1 doesn't feel right. WE ARE TAKING YALL NERDS TO COURT LAWYER UP BITCHES
Do you find it unbelievable that Jabra has friends? And admin/mod should surely be able to differ Jabra and my IP from each other, since I'm not behind proxy or VPN.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sam
Otherwise you can pm me, and I'll give you my username on the discord, and I can reveal my real identity. Which would be hard to fake, since I'm quite a known gaming personality, with my own community with over 40.0000 members, an mod on another 200.000+
Jabra told me he posted on KSF, so I just went to check it out. And I hard a hard time not to get a bit fired up. I'm on ksf discord and other surf discords too. As a surfer from the era back when xdream was alive. I just think it's fun watching how the surf community is thriving. Even though I'm completely lacking in skills compared to this era's surfers.
I also had some business interest in KSF. As a person who own a payment solution, which could give KSF the option to accept donations and vip payments, in the payment methods: csgo skins, stripe, alipay, crypto, multibanco, ideal, sofort and more, instead of only offering PayPal. But well seems like KSF isn't that serious of a project, after all.
I don't like racist people who would mock someone for their genetics. I don't get why Jabra is even excusing, people with the morals to trash someone for his genetics, wouldn't bother me if they stopped breathing. But I also don't get why he would make this thread in the first place. I would personally just had filed a police report against Simex. It's illegal for him here in Denmark to say someone has given him death threats, without the courts word for it. You all seem very uncivil like animals in my perspective, somewhat arguing defamation is alright against Jabra due to his back story. I thought the ban was his punishment. But seems like defaming him for life, is his punishment.
Idk what Jabra has done in entirety. Their isn't any evidence anywhere public. He sure sounds like an annoyance to you. But with so little evidence public, it kinda makes you all laughable. In the discord you even often use him as a scapegoat for a variation of shit, like when the server had down-time for a bit a few days ago.
I just don't get why you ban a person and then keep trashing him on the internet, and then get shocked when he pop up to defend himself. You all seem quite eager to make a huge debate out of it. I guess it's somehow an enjoyment to you. You actually do want him to come back for once in a while to challenge your intellect, or something. When I perm ban people in my community, I also ensure they aren't mentioned again, as things then shortly settle down. I can then live in peace from the person.
The only reply you had needed was for his thread was: "Hello Jabra, yes we will stop spreading lies about you threating to murder people, we didn't think it bothered you, bye bye" - the end.
But suddenly something so simple was made into a big huge ass debate, with lots of whataboutism crap.
Wtf I hate ksf now
I really wish Xilanem and Jabra would stop sending me death threats :(
Down with sam
DOWN WITH SAM
DEMOTE SAM 202010
There is plenty of evidence agaisnt jabra.
I don't think anyone has really spoken to jabra in ksf for over half a year, he is the one seeking the attention and the debate.
If you would like, could we speak in private? You seem surprisingly invested in this, and seems to only have Jabras side of the story.
My discord is emil#5868.
can u stream pleaseQuote:
Originally Posted by Simex
No can do. I can only stream every second week cause divorced parents = only 1 good pc :/
Hearing your stories? He has access to KSF Discord. Don't you think he had heard enough of your stories already? Did you even know why I was banned in the summer? How many were even introduced to my point I wanted to make?
It all started with I heard about whoknows_ksf settings were changed, consequentially, all former times were outdated on a pretty competitive map. I typed many messages about this issue on the Danish Discord. I requested my old good friend Syfo to look at this. He replied, "fuck you". No one really took it seriously on the Danish Discord, so as last resort I went on KSF Discord and complaint about this, especially KSF lacking procedures to change settings on maps once they have already been released.
One of the problems was that Simex who had WR interests in the map was the same guy who asked the top10 holders whether it would be fine to change the settings. This entails an obvious conflict of interest, group pressure, and so on. Top10 holders have to be able to approve/disapprove anonymously and the guy responsible for collecting their approvals/disapprovals should be impartial.
You say you have evidence. I just had a long conversation with Stevo where he had a chance of presenting my hate. It came out as I was the one who presented KSF's hate, lmfao. He didn't present any proper examples. I don't want you to fucking PM my friends and once again try to exclude me and tell a biased version of stories. You can write here. You have never presented me with any evidence. Yes, I sent hate to you - hate initiated by Sam especially. So that's again pointing back to not just a KSF member - but a KSF manager. Even if you have, who the heck are you to put yourself in a position to judge my hate, lmfao.
I have never done anything as disgusting as abusing my power for the sheer gratification of lust or bullied people or anything like that. I have said many stupid things in frustration probably.
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You haven't provided me any good examples of hate. I have for you now, the way I tackled my admin role back then But this hate was also initially encouraged by other KSF members by admin abusing people. I made many good points back then. I introduced the concept of following a procedure. The concept of legal basis. I introduced the concept of an admin that protects people from admin abuse. I wasn't just being abusive by any means. If some of these concepts were applied back then, we would never have stood in this situation. In fact, the two first concepts are so fundamental that it is impossible to not have admin abuse on KSF (since they are not applied). Instead, you have banned 5 letters and act like you are morally superior. It's a fucking joke.
So I can't really see how I spread hate. What I did to Simex was hate, yeah. Sam abused his power which he still hasn't provided any argument for. Abusing one's power is hate. And no, I'm not to provide evidence for that, then you don't understand the concept of burden of proof. After that incident, I went insane. So that's again an example of KSF members initiating hate (which hit Simex). This is the conflict where you have totally excluded me from being heard which is utterly disgusting.
Also, I guess Simex or Oliver spreading my list that was confidential on KSF Discord. Once again spreading hate - you got that one back, sorry bro.
Sunday falsely reporting newcomers' records - ask Gmmbearz. I experienced it myself when I played under my alt account as "new player". That is hate.
Sam trashtalks my autism - that is hate. Ask Otter, he has also criticized this which I think was cool. When even your manager participates in hate speech, how do you think that sets the example for the "non-toxic culture of KSF"? It is basic organization theory that managers set the example for an organization's culture. I have been banned at KSF at numerous occasions for defending myself - that's hate. And no, don't say I don't have evidence, don't goddamn reverse the burden of proof - especially when you brought it up.
https://ksfclan.com/forum/showthread...1863#post21863 This is in 2019 less than 2 years ago where Masterbeta admin abuses, and then his victim acts in frustration and say something stupid, but it's only the victim's fault apparently, KSF members say nothing to Mastabeta who initiated the fight. You blatantly admin abused (or supported) a victim, apparent for everyone, for less than 2 years ago (just imagine all the shit that happens in the discrete) without the least fucking expression of empathy for the victim - and you guys are trying to convince me you changed? That's another one of your top managers being involved in abuse, Sacred. Again a good guy to set a great example for the non-toxic culture on KSF and who have shown a lot of remorse privately probably; maybe it is also about time to do so publicly?
All this shit is recently so I still don't understand why you act like you have the moral high ground? You don't fucking. Get out.
I still haven't seen a reply to why KSF doesn't take libel seriously when they were warned about it BEFORE THIS THREAD? Isn't it hate to ban and exclude someone from the possibility for dissociating himself from sending threats? Regardless of whether those accuses were sent, your first mission as a professional organization should be to examine them after my inquiry. But you rather exclude that guy and silence him and bully him like those fucking morally corrupt disgusting beings you are. Get out of my life now and put your disgusting hate aside for once and all
I don't want you to ignore this, so I reposted it.
I didnt ignore it, but you keep lying about me, and apperently to your friends aswell. I'd rather hear what they have heard from you. Your friend seem to think the best for you would be to contact the police. That actually scares me. If you spread false information to people, so they think its fine to call the fucking police on me, that scares me. Thats why I would like to talk to your friend there.
So you don't expect a person who is used as a scapegoat and on weekly basis getting trashed on your discord, and prolly on the in-game chat / voice cheat as well. Not to defend himself? If you had common knownledge you would also know people with austism is overly sensitive. Making it even more troublesome for someone like him to just ignore it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Simex
I don't get the point of talking in private, just prooves my point, that you like to speak ill of someone who is unable to defend himself.
I honestly don't care though, because I don't think he can have done anything which justifies he should be defamed for lifetime. Ye sure ban him, the ksf community is a private entity, which no one is entitled to, except for the owner. I just don't get what you get from continues defaming him. Other than an annoying guy coming back every once in a while to piss you all of on new.
KSF honestly seems like a gang of bullies which serves whoever owns it. I get it. Like said I own a community aswell, and could use it to defame whoever I would with my high sheep following aswell, and also did that 5-8 years back when I was younger, whenever someone tried to d-dos or whatever. Which I'm not proud of today, because it's just uncivil.
Last year I did fake cheat propaganda with my team to defame Valorant through twitter when it was released, which lots of media picked up on. Was a fun prank (2 of our team members is working at riot, so we had somewhat of a approval though) but well it prooves the power you have in a commnunity, when you are a bunch of high influencial people in a gang. Using such power to make life worse for a single person you don't like is an absolute waste and immature.
Well idk if he lied to me. I asked him if he knew something about the surf games getting made, out of interrest. He then told me about his post on KSF, as it seemed like some kind of misunderstanding had happened, where people thought he directly had threathened to kill you. He then told me he didn't but had been really furoius at you and given you a load of crap, but that he never threathened to kill you. I then looked at discord and could see that people had an interpretation that you have told them he directly threathened to kill you.
Which is a really serious accusation, honestly. To comfort him, I said oh calm down this Emil guy's surf look like bullshit anyway. Jabra than corrected me, and was like what video did you watch? Emil is really good. That pretty much sums up our conversation.
If Jabra one day were to apply for a job, and the company searched him up, found his linked gaming alias, and figured people went around and said he was threathening to murder people here and there, that would put Jabra in a really bad situation. That's why you use the legal system for such matters, and we have criminal laws against defaming.
I don't think it's so surprising I'm "invested". I have been lurking around for a lot, and heared Jabra's stories over the years and some of the KSF members stories provided on discord as well. Given that I was a surfer back in 2005-2008. Just good child memories to re-live, watching some of you guys surf vids and etc.
I just got pretty mad, when I realized people ridiculed him for his genetic disability as an autism. Stuff like that hurts me right at the heart. When he then said people accused him as threathening to kill people, I could stop myself from answering this thread.
Dude, this is exactly why I wanted to speak to you. Cause now you are the one spreading false information.
Its not my server, I am just a member. I can't control what the other members or admins think, say or do. I can only act for my self in what I think is right.
I dont like speaking ill of someone who can't defend themself.
Jabra chose to permanently block me, and never speak to me again.
I only spoke of Jabra if I was asked about him, or if he joined the discord with an alt account.
Now, what defaming have I done exactly?
Who is saying that I have said, that Jabra sent me death threats?
And why do you instantly believe it without any proof?
This all happend 7-8 months ago, and I dont remember ever saying he threatened to kill me.
If you think I have ever said that, pls prove it so I can apoligize or smth.
Look, if I ever said that, it wasnt what I meant.
He didn't threaten to kill me. He just told me in detail how to kill my self along with 50+ other hate messages. All because I supported a map change.
Jabra has lied about what I did and in that way spread false information which has now resulted in threats of contacting the police.
I never had intentions of WR on surf_whoknows
It was never my idea to remove the maxvel on the map, it was Orson and Oli's idea, which I supported and brought to ksf.
I never lied about my part in bringing the idea to ksf, which Jabra said I did. I have also proved this, and can do it again if you would like.
I really don't care what Jabra thinks of ksf, bcs I know how he is as a person.
He likes making a big list of people he hate, and share it with his danish friends.
He likes to trashtalk people directly, and have told people to kill themselves.
He threatens people with lawsuits online without any proof, and without contacting the person in private first.
He lies and spreads false information online to make me look bad, and then tells his friends about it.
He calls it fraud when people don't agree with him.
I just don't want anything to do with Jabra because of this, and I don't care what problems he has with other people.
I just want him away from ksf, and thats about it.
If I am not being mentioned in a bad way anymore in this thread, I will happily leave it so you can get on with your actual point, with the people you have the actual problems with.