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    Why do you keep going? Not even when I fucking provide evidence you recognize anything is wrong. What the fuck this is even. I don't know who you are? Shifty? Helping me? Help yourself, lol. You say I don't have a case. Are you also a lawyer? Who the fuck do you think you are?
    I don't care about having power here. Am I applying for KSF membership? What the fuck are you talking about? Please just leave this conversation. You say I have never brought joy to the community. Yet it is a conversation on every Youtube comment section once one of my sc's are implemented. I have met 6 surfers irl, 5 danes (Zymbia, Kap, Mausi, Syfo, Breez from Furious), the other one being the old leader of Nightmare in Switzerland. I have had dozen of friends, and even Syfo told me he couldn't have done it without me. And can we just fucking stop it here and stop your lies? 30 people? There are over 1k people active on KSF, and only through something like less than 10 Facebook friendslists, every man on earth is kinda connected. Why you try to keep toning it down. Attention? That's one thing among others. Surely I wanted this thread to gain attention because it was taken for granted that I had done horrible things which were completely deprived of context. I got to tell my story, thanks (you can thank Sam and Sony for that it happened here instead of lowkey on Discord). Just like you want attention to communicate whatever you trying to say now, just without any relevance and by lying because you are an idiot. Bye, hopefully.

    Edit: If anything, lack of power is an argument for my case because being subject to defamation without any power just makes it 100 times worse. Just shows KSF members' devilish mentality. It's like arguing that only rich people should have a fair trial because they have power. I don't understand KSF's culture really. They are absolute cowards.
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    lol at you thinking anyone cares about you. with 30 people i meant those on ksf that can even remember who you are.

    you misunderstand me, i just want to find out what you want from ksf, so that we can resolve this and you stop harassing us

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    Just stop it, please, search on "Jabra" on KSF Discord. These search results do not even account for my records etc. from the Discord bots because I used alternative names. You try brush off defamation with "nobody cares about that person anyway". It's disgusting.

    Harassing you? I don't know how many times you guys have harassed, even with countless lies etc. Just in this debate. It's getting ridiculous. You even harassed me when you entered this conversation saying stuff as I had never brought joy to the community, yet I'm prob. one of the guys who have met most surfers irl. No, I haven't misunderstood you. I'm tired of lies about me, but you can lowkey lie about me if you want, but don't fuck paint me as a perpetrator - that's just fucking crossing the line - and that's why I'm here to let you know that is crossing the line and to tell what happened so people don't get that impression (I don't care about what the sheeps from KSF say, but I don't want to leave that impression on people, e.g., who can think for themself; that hurts me tbh.)
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    pretty sure everyone here that can think for themselves has figured out that talking to you is just a waste of time.

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    Took you a long time to write. Go to Pornhub if you need stimulation in your life. I'm done here and I did find Juxtapo's "full stop mark" appropriate because at that point I had shown my evidence and there was no point of further discussion other than you apologizing but I don't expect that. Bye.

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    thank you

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    Quote Originally Posted by Michael.Viera View Post
    Syfo told me he couldn't have done it without me.
    Quote Originally Posted by Michael.Viera View Post
    I requested my old good friend Syfo to look at this. He replied, "fuck you".
    idk idk

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    I have met 6 surfers irl, 5 danes (Zymbia, Kap, Mausi, Syfo, Breez from Furious)
    Wild, don't you know what happened back then smashed an IRL friendship? Now you know. What happened back then was severe, but I was fine to part with the surf community and it was my intention too before uni, but then my movie was shared on KSF Discord (I didn't, just sent it to Mausi and Kap and Gmmbearz who sent me demos) and I came back to defend my right to call some of these routes mine that were under attack (some of them because of actual mistakes). It happened in the midst of the spin debate, and I was asked by a nice guy about my opinion about it. I asked about whether what I called "wiggle wiggle", zigzag strafing should be illegal too which is exactly what redc did on elyisum; Simex joined and I was told to get the fuck out etc. (because of the incident back in the spring) and then someone in that conversation brought up the death threat which shocked me. I was banned at Simex's request which was okay because I only came to defend the movie and that discussion had just ended, but the death threat thing struck me. I kinda tried to push it behind me but it felt horrible how I was falsely portrayed as a perpetrator, it was straight-out defamation. I have once before complained about defamation when someone called me racist, but I think I exaggerated because I had written something that could be misinterpreted - and who isn't called racist these days? It was also fine as I had a chance to comment on it so it could be resolved immediately, but at this point, I was forbidden to comment on it. It was, yeah, disgusting. That screenshot I used as evidence was not even from that conversation, so I know the "death threat" has been spread widely, maybe it has even been commonly accepted which is disgusting.

    Edit: I hope that was a lesson. It's sick to portray someone falsely as a perpetrator, but then to deny that person his/her possibility to reject it is completely insane. Some people were very busy talking about evidence which I didn't expect but you have to learn to expect the worst when dealing with KSF that they are willing to deny anything and lie about anything. My point of this thread was not to provide evidence; I said legal means would become actual at that point this thread was deleted (which it hasn't been as you can see) because first at that point I would have been denied every possibility to comment on the false allegations that portray me as a perpetrator. If that happens, I'm going to collect all the evidence I can and use all legal means possible. I have already plenty.

    Bye? I hope you can leave me alone now.
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    bump so this shitshow doesn't die

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    By the way, so this was the guy, but first some admin, that tried to cover up for the death threats rumors about me.
    Just like Weiss said

    it was like 4 years ago
    I remember I made a thread about it, and everyone just laughed it off
    don't remember an apology


    This seems to be their strategy whenever they can't deal with abuse or defend themself - to laugh it off or be sarcastic. Their culture still hasn't changed after 3-4 years and they gladly facilitate death threat rumors is the conclusion
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