Stevo Admin Abuse

[Jabra]

http://pastebin.com/cCWCJPiY roll down

[Skanders]

gmmbears bein gmmbearz, stevo bein stevo, nothin to see here

[Sony]

Don't see anything wrong here.

[Stevo_97]

wasn't me

[Sony]

http://mrwgifs.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/07/It-Wasnt-Me-Shaggy-Music-Video-Gif.gif

[Juxtapo]

paragraph incoming?

[Jabra]

you still dont know how to argue

[fakeDemon]

Put down.

[Jabra]

my friend peter rapes a girl, peter be peter. i dont think you understand arguments, skandy.

[Sony]

my friend peter rapes a girl, peter be peter. i dont think you understand arguments, skandy.

Are you implying that raping and banning are within the same jurisdiction??

[Stevo_97]

my friend peter rapes a girl, peter be peter. i dont think you understand arguments, skandy.

You should really report that to the police

[Jabra]

No, sony. It's just that the argument formular is the same "I do A, i'm allowed to do A".

[Sundayy]

Ur retarded auth

[Jabra]

Sunday, you're still irrelevant.

[Sundayy]

well youre becoming another member that only make and create drama

[Nowlech]

oh my godddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddd dddd

[Jabra]

I'm not the initiating factor once again. The initiating factor is the player who carried out the admin abuse-action.

[Nyannix]

Can't we just be a big happy ksf family? :)

[Sundayy]

Can't we just be a big happy ksf family? :)

Impossible Ksf isn't ksf if it doesn't have a drama/cop member

[FluX]

you still dont know how to argue

This looks pretty initiated to me. I don't see why you commented this, you're clearly hungry for some drama, take a break Jabra.

[Jabra]

I dont know what you mean, Flux. The initiator commits the immoral action, it's not the the factors that might have led to the situation. On the same way Stevo's mom isnt responsible because she has borned him.

Drama is another word for dicussion, and that's what im trying to create by complaining. That's the only way we can highlight admin abuse. But I havent really created a discussion after all, since discussion requires arguments from both sides and not just childish expressions as "retarded". I havent yet seen an argument. Once again I have proved a KSF member isn't mature enough to be admin. They dont follow any consistent principles.

[Sundayy]

We are all sorry Mr.Law , KSF ain't a good place for you we're childish

[Sundayy]

BTW borned doesn't exist xD

[Jabra]

Sunday, you're still irrelevant because you're not arguing.

[Sundayy]

The sense of that it's equal to my number of world records

[Sacred]

You could still shut the fuck up sometimes, Sunday. Not that I wanna support either side here, but you're damn annoying.

[Masog]

On topic, gmmbearz gets what he wants, he either trolls, pretends to be retarded or just is retarded which gets him banned and he's completely aware of it. There's not many people that like to provoke people as much as he does, no fault on stevo's side here. Move on.

[Jabra]

Masog, everything you listed is allowed. There're not any rules longer that limit the content of people's speech.

[Jabra]

There's a good reason for that. Because it's completely arbitrary to determine whether an expression is troll, retarded and so on, and it leads to that the admin will in any way determine the expression as being something negative.

[Masog]

I honestly think that when it comes to gmmbearz trolling kind of people we really need a !selfgag command if it's possible, I have wanted it for so long because of some people just straight up spamming / being annoying. That could be an issue too though, because if admin selfgagged someone and he ends up doing something dumb he wouldn't see it so he wouldn't do anything about it unless someone let him know.

[Jabra]

I dont find the problem about joking or trolling, it's a major and fun part of the game chat culture on internet, a lot of people do it and are allowed to as long the admin doesnt have a personal conflict with them, lol. If admins get triggered by harmless jokes they arent mature enough to be admins. If Stevo interpret is as spamming, he's again not consistent, just look how Ruby posted 5 nonsense crap messages in 1-2 seconds, and Stevo didn't care at all in same game session. No offense, Ruby, posting dongers, saying nonsense crap etc. is part of the culture (as long as the admin doesnt have a personal conflict with you though :facepalm:)

"*SPEC* [BW Master] вѕɔ | Ruby : [Elite] kenta : motherfucker
*SPEC* [BW Master] вѕɔ | Ruby : ◔(̯◔)
*SPEC* [BW Master] вѕɔ | Ruby : ( ͡- ͜ʖ ͡-)╭
supreme ツ : MOTHERFUCEKRUJK
supreme ツ : s9 is easy too
*SPEC* [BW Master] вѕɔ | Ruby : ◔(̯◔)
*SPEC* [BW Master] вѕɔ | Ruby : ◔(̯◔)"

[THERAPIST]

If you honestly think gmmbearz is going to be allowed to go out of his way to piss admins off and not get banned then you can think again.

[Sundaytwo]

The problem jabra is that you're defending someone that only focus to piss off another people , wucki didn't cry when he was being 1w'd evertime he trolled on the server.


P.S new account yes , now I can thanks/dislike/like

[Jabra]

You guys kinda remind me of muslims and feminists.

[THERAPIST]

You guys kinda remind me of muslims and feminists.

I thought you were painting us to be the bigots.

[Jabra]

Grow up, if you cant handle joke or provocation. Every1 else on server can. Worst thing is that mr.gmmbearz didnt even start the happeneing. Stevo started reacting aggressively as soon mr.gmmbearz said hello.
stevo (STEAM_0:0:53524535) connected from Ireland
[Surf Timer] - Australia - surf_nyze (9/30) IP: 108.61.168.31
mr.gmmbearz :D (STEAM_0:0:33974660) connected from Czech Republic
*SPEC* [Expert] mr.gmmbearz :D : hello:)
Player Sox left the game (Disconnect by user.)
[κѕғ] stevo : any bullshit from you and you're banned

[Sundaytwo]

.

[Jabra]

I have not only proved that Stevo did admin abuse. I have also proved that he started provocing and have a negative attitude to Mr.gmmbearz.
You're the worst fucking hypocrites.

[Jabra]

I'm done.

[Stevo_97]

I have not only proved that Stevo did admin abuse. I have also proved that he started provocing and have a negative attitude to Mr.gmmbearz.
You're the worst fucking hypocrites.

Get over yourself. Once again trolling may not be in the rules BUT IT'S IMPLICIT. Shut the fuck up already, nobody wants you around anymore. You think you're cleaning up the community but in reality you're only making things worse. Do everyone a favour and fuck off.

Also I didn't intentionally provoke him, I warned him as to what would happen if he pulled his usual bullshit on me or anyone else. What kind of moron decides to not be good and quiet but instead goes against what the admin says and does exactly what I said not to.

[Jabra]

No, it's not. You have ignored every of my argument.

Your comment is intellectual worthless.

Get the fuck out and come back when you actually have an argument.

[Stevo_97]

Jabra, you don't have an argument.

[Jabra]

"Masog, everything you listed is allowed. There're not any rules longer that limit the content of people's speech."


"There's a good reason for that. Because it's completely arbitrary to determine whether an expression is troll, retarded and so on, and it leads to that the admin will in any way determine the expression as being something negative."



"I dont find the problem about joking or trolling, it's a major and fun part of the game chat culture on internet, a lot of people do it and are allowed to as long the admin doesnt have a personal conflict with them, lol. If admins get triggered by harmless jokes they arent mature enough to be admins. If Stevo interpret is as spamming, he's again not consistent, just look how Ruby posted 5 nonsense crap messages in 1-2 seconds, and Stevo didn't care at all in same game session. No offense, Ruby, posting dongers, saying nonsense crap etc. is part of the culture (as long as the admin doesnt have a personal conflict with you though )

*SPEC* [BW Master] вѕɔ | Ruby : [Elite] kenta : motherfucker
*SPEC* [BW Master] вѕɔ | Ruby : ◔(̯◔)
*SPEC* [BW Master] вѕɔ | Ruby : ( ͡- ͜ʖ ͡-)╭
supreme ツ : MOTHERFUCEKRUJK
supreme ツ : s9 is easy too
*SPEC* [BW Master] вѕɔ | Ruby : ◔(̯◔)
*SPEC* [BW Master] вѕɔ | Ruby : ◔(̯◔)"



"Grow up, if you cant handle joke or provocation. Every1 else on server can. Worst thing is that mr.gmmbearz didnt even start the happeneing. Stevo started reacting aggressively as soon mr.gmmbearz said hello.
stevo (STEAM_0:0:53524535) connected from Ireland
[Surf Timer] - Australia - surf_nyze (9/30) IP: 108.61.168.31
mr.gmmbearz (STEAM_0:0:33974660) connected from Czech Republic
*SPEC* [Expert] mr.gmmbearz : hello
Player Sox left the game (Disconnect by user.)
[κѕғ] stevo : any bullshit from you and you're banned"

[Jabra]

Now the provocation suddenly has to be intentional? Haha, what a fucking hilarious excuse.

[Stevo_97]

Now the provocation suddenly has to be intentional? Haha, what a fucking hilarious excuse.

What difference does it make? He still decided to react in his usual way? Still not seeing an argument here pal

[Jabra]

People are arguing that provocation is a reason to ban him, but you provocated yourself, and they dont value that. So they are hypocritical.

[Stevo_97]

I didn't ban him for provocation, banned him for being an idiot

[Jabra]

Yeah, w/e random reason you're making up.

[Blink]

I dont find the problem about joking or trolling, it's a major and fun part of the game chat culture on internet, a lot of people do it and are allowed to as long the admin doesnt have a personal conflict with them, lol. If admins get triggered by harmless jokes they arent mature enough to be admins. If Stevo interpret is as spamming, he's again not consistent, just look how Ruby posted 5 nonsense crap messages in 1-2 seconds, and Stevo didn't care at all in same game session. No offense, Ruby, posting dongers, saying nonsense crap etc. is part of the culture (as long as the admin doesnt have a personal conflict with you though )

*SPEC* [BW Master] вѕɔ | Ruby : [Elite] kenta : motherfucker
*SPEC* [BW Master] вѕɔ | Ruby : ◔(̯◔)
*SPEC* [BW Master] вѕɔ | Ruby : ( ͡- ͜ʖ ͡-)╭
supreme ツ : MOTHERFUCEKRUJK
supreme ツ : s9 is easy too
*SPEC* [BW Master] вѕɔ | Ruby : ◔(̯◔)
*SPEC* [BW Master] вѕɔ | Ruby : ◔(̯◔)"

This is a shitty example because you left out a message that would put these messages in context. Ruby was directing these messages towards supreme and 3 of these 5 messages are unique and one of the remaining 2 could be a reaction to what supreme replied so there's actually one extra or 'crap' message. This again shows how you just don't understand this community at all because you have been inactive and you should just shut the fuck up

[Jabra]

Again, you demonstrate you're dumb as fuck, Blink. Spam has nothing to whether it's directed to a receiver or not (all of gmmbearz messages were tho lol). It's just when you type many messages in short time.

[Blink]

Whether it's directed to someone gives it meaning and spamming is sending the same message multiple times you fucktard. Typing many messages in a short time means you're fast at typing

EDIT: Also I wasn't arguing that Rubys messages weren't spam, I was pointing out that they weren't nonsense crap messages as you claimed

[Sundaytwo]

Offtopic you filled the view entry info wrongly , username is not the victims , its Steve's

[maggi]

How about just adding a rule (if it doesn't exist already, because it should be obvious), that if you go out of your way to piss someone off or annoy someone an admin should be allowed to take action. That way nobody can complain.

[Jabra]

No, Maggi.

There should not be any rule that limits people's speech, because it ALWAYS cause admin abusing. I have typed enough things about it, go back in the thread.

Well, when I talk about meaning. I mean a more a defined/specific meaning. Every comment has a meaning, e.g. spamming is meant to be annoying.

[Blink]

The context in this case gives it meaning, which debunks your argument about stevo not being consistent in the same game session

[maggi]

Of course not limiting speech is important, but say I owned a restaurant and someone came in with the intent of pissing off my customers, verbally abusing them or trolling them, that person would be immediately kicked out.

[Sundaytwo]

He's not limiting people's speech , he's saying for the ones that go to piss admins e.g mr.gmmbearz

[Jabra]

Shut up, Sunday.

Yeah, Maggi, you have a point. But the problem is, the game chat culture is completely different from how people go on restaurant. Harassment and trolling is a fundamental part of the game and has always been, especially from the admins themselves.

Anyway, the only well-working, objective and fair way to limit people's speech would be to ban personal attacks. For instance: "Person A is a 'negative word' "

[frankdimegglio]

stop clinging to server rules pls and start listening to the rules in your heart.




xD

[Levi]

You guys kinda remind me of muslims and feminists.

thats fucked up

[Saya]

stop clinging to server rules pls and start listening to the rules in your heart.




xD

Such wise words, Senpai.

[rool]

i think what people should do is stick to this, warning>gag, if he avoids it>ban.

[frankdimegglio]

i think what people should do is stick to this, warning>gag, if he avoids it>ban.

what if the gag is unjustified and just a result of someone being butthurt

[rool]

that ties in well with this whole situation, but even if the gag is unjustified it still doesn't remove you from access to the server, meaning that you can still surf.