OFFICIAL KSF surf map! (Updates and Status)

[evolv]

Well surf_KSF has begun production thanks to the help of the community!
As for now the participants of this include the following

-Lucky Charms
-Paul
-Kirru
-Cocaine
-Ryan S.
-Georgeous Gentleman
-Lody Blokady
-Monkeywithagun
-razEr
-Unt0uch4bl3

Please leave a reply with which stage you wish to work on. (stages 1 - ?) Mapmakers get to choose which level they make on a first come first serve basis.

If anyone needs any models player is willing to make anything you might need. Lody is especially good with textures if anyone needs those.

If anyone else is wants to make either a stage, jail, texture, model, ect please reply in this thread or contact one of the players helping make this map.

As for a theme in the map, all we ask is that it be colorful with long/curved/smooth ramps. (Im sure almost everyone is tired of the dull textures, monotone colors, short stubby surf maps that have been coming out lately.

Good luck to everyone working on this project and I hope the outcome will be beyond expectation. Also could everyone working on the project find some a way contacting with each other so that we can coordinate and communicate.

[penis raptor]

Someone msg me about this and I'm current interested in making a stage. Btw this is monkey.

[evolv]

Ok monkey I added you to the list, you can choose which stage you want to make. Also could you please add me on steam for easier contact.

[penis raptor]

steam addy?

[evolv]

My steam name is - AnonymousArmy please add it

[penis raptor]

Says there is a problem while adding :\

add jfskells

[LuckyCharms]

Maybe we should put up a vote to see how many levels everyone wants????, i could make spawn and make the last level. I'm not very good at making easy surf but i can make hard and fun ^^. I love making spawns too :D

[Kiiru]

i want to make Bonus 8-) :D

[ryanterr0r]

I'll make a stage if I'm allowed.

Edit: I'll take stage 1 if no one else has it

[Daniel]

Just throwing this out there, but if we go with Relapses idea, there wont really be stage 1, stage 2, etc. Its just stages that will be in a different order every time. So unless we're just doing straight skill now(which i dont think we should), bonuses wont work, and nether will the idea of a "final stage". Just saying.

[MrRogersInDaHood]

I'd like to make a stage, if I get to I will need some help with textures because I usually don't map in a colorful smooth style, however I am sure I could come up with something that meets the standards of a proper level.

[LuckyCharms]

SO LIEK, relapses idea is pretty much if you beat level 1 you get teled to a room and you pick the next level, and so on. That would work well if we do it right :3. like we can have however many levels, lets say 8, and when you are first to beat 1 you get teled to the room and pick the next level which you get teled to and once others beat the level they go to the level you chose. A bonus would work like lets say bonus can only be opened once someone beats 5 or 6 of the 8 levels. if you are the one that first beat the 5th or 6th level opened then you can choose bonus if you want. but the next person to beat the 5th or 6th level you still choose the next level, unless you also choose bonus. AMIRITE? so we can make stages 1 through however and a bonus AND IT WILL WORK :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o

[LuckyCharms]

:D

[Mr.Demon <3]

If were doing that like you said Lucky we can put bonus in without any problem. Tho if it that easy to get to bonus it should be like lolwtfomghard.

[gorgeous gentleman]

so someone beats one and picks level 2

does everyone continue to surf one until they beat it or are they tele'd once the next level has been chosen.

And I'm not sure if I like this idea because someone could be a dick and choose the harder levels to be the first few so people get frustrated because they cant beat them.

[LuckyCharms]

first 3 pics of one of my level

[Mr.Demon <3]

so someone beats one and picks level 2

does everyone continue to surf one until they beat it or are they tele'd once the next level has been chosen.

And I'm not sure if I like this idea because someone could be a dick and choose the harder levels to be the first few so people get frustrated because they cant beat them.
no you don't get tele'd you still got to beat your current level but you will get tele'd to the level the first guy choosed tho.

[Paul]

I had 2 stages but I've already decided which one I am going to use.

BY THE WAY! These picture limitations are shit.

http://i38.tinypic.com/2q3856q.jpg
http://i35.tinypic.com/b8pmjb.jpg
http://i35.tinypic.com/24e6jc7.jpg

[Daniel]

I really like what I've seen so far. Lucky and Paul your levels look great. I played gorgeous's level and cocaine's level, and both of those were fun too. My only fear at this point is that we only have hard levels. I really really really encourage people that have not started yet or still have a lot of work left to make something easy. This should be a good fun map, not another quickly made, ridiculously hard skill map.

[gorgeous gentleman]

I think it should be very hard.

Hard fun maps are more lasting than easy ones. But I agree the first few levels should not be crazy hard

[Paul]

Just throwing this out there, but if we go with Relapses idea, there wont really be stage 1, stage 2, etc. Its just stages that will be in a different order every time. So unless we're just doing straight skill now(which i dont think we should), bonuses wont work, and nether will the idea of a "final stage". Just saying.

MMMMKAAAAAAAY.

So we make somewhere for the bonus in all stages and then use a math_counter to count the 3rd stage(actually the second one that the person picks but whatever) and enables the bonus teleport on it.

OR

I'd actually prefer just straight skill surf.

[LuckyCharms]

i made it more "vivid" and "colorful" evolv ^^ post fonts we could use for "Surf_ksf" sign and ill make it in game ^^ third pic is before, first 2 pics are new

[gorgeous gentleman]

What skybox are we using by the way?

edit: I dont like the level picking idea. i think it should be staged.

[Mr.Demon <3]

Lucky, Your stage look pretty cool imo

[Paul]

Skybox suggestion.

http://www.fpsbanana.com/textures/2381

[kirisamemarisa]

I'll make some decals, textures etc if need.

I'll start on my stage now. Of course it will be my standard surf map style, confusing as hell.

[kirisamemarisa]

for the level order i have an idea...


the first person to complete level 1, 2 etc.. chooses a door to choose the next level.
anyone who completes a level after him does it in the order he chose, so the first person to complete each level chooses the order for the round.

[Paul]

for the level order i have an idea...


the first person to complete level 1, 2 etc.. chooses a door to choose the next level.
anyone who completes a level after him does it in the order he chose, so the first person to complete each level chooses the order for the round.


We've already said this idea about 20 times.

http://i36.tinypic.com/2eb68md.jpg

OH YEAH!

http://i34.tinypic.com/n2iwhx.png

Transparency FTW!

[kirisamemarisa]

http://lodyblokady.com/?p=124
^^^
if anyone needs to make textures

[evolv]

I make textures to if you need some

[Relapse]

can every1 add me on steam and tell me when lvls get tested? i wanna test them with u =)

just add sl1msh4dy ;) if its not to much to ask for

[unt0uch4bl3]

for the level order i have an idea...


the first person to complete level 1, 2 etc.. chooses a door to choose the next level.
anyone who completes a level after him does it in the order he chose, so the first person to complete each level chooses the order for the round.


We've already said this idea about 20 times.

http://i36.tinypic.com/2eb68md.jpg

OH YEAH!

http://i34.tinypic.com/n2iwhx.png

Transparency FTW!

yo I'd just like to say that we should keep names and shit to a respectable small size. I'd like the map to stay away from shit that's all ways in your face when you surf.

[gorgeous gentleman]

for the level order i have an idea...


the first person to complete level 1, 2 etc.. chooses a door to choose the next level.
anyone who completes a level after him does it in the order he chose, so the first person to complete each level chooses the order for the round.


We've already said this idea about 20 times.

http://i36.tinypic.com/2eb68md.jpg

OH YEAH!

http://i34.tinypic.com/n2iwhx.png

Transparency FTW!

yo I'd just like to say that we should keep names and shit to a respectable small size. I'd like the map to stay away from shit that's all ways in your face when you surf.

like thay

anyway, paul your level is beast

[Paul]

I like having my name there, but whatever, it's not like it's MY stage or anything, I guess no matter what untouchable get's last say on everything.

But Lody can not make anything anime or I'll be out of this fucking collab in a flash.

[razEr]

I'll join up :D

The stage that is free, is miinnneee :D

[evolv]

I like having my name there, but whatever, it's not like it's MY stage or anything, I guess no matter what untouchable get's last say on everything.

But Lody can not make anything anime or I'll be out of this fucking collab in a flash.

You get to do whatever you want on your stage... just as everyone gets to use *whatever* they want in there stage, except if theres anime music or something we can probably just remove that with stripper.
It was just a suggestion though don't take it seriously, you can leave your name on there if you want.

Razer is now onboard this production so everyone get his contact information. Also it appears some members are coming close to finishing there levels, so sometime soon we may be able to start combining levels.

[evolv]

i made it more "vivid" and "colorful" evolv ^^ post fonts we could use for "Surf_ksf" sign and ill make it in game ^^ third pic is before, first 2 pics are new

As for fonts I uploaded a Top 1000 list of greatest most professional fonts ever made. Enjoy ;)
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=GIKDLB8K

[unt0uch4bl3]

I like having my name there, but whatever, it's not like it's MY stage or anything, I guess no matter what untouchable get's last say on everything.

But Lody can not make anything anime or I'll be out of this fucking collab in a flash.


LOL Paul calm down. It was only a suggestion, take it or leave it, it is up to you.

And last say is not by me. As I made my point before, stages are and will be judged by everyone who decides to participate in any way in this project (whether by making something or just offering their opinion). THIS IS WHERE LAST SAY WILL BE MADE, and we are not at that point yet.

Remember this is not a dictatorship. This is something that resembles a democratic environment. That said I will not stop voicing my opinion, but you have just as an equal right to voice yours and even more as a matter of fact because you're the one making the stage and its your name. So if I am able to persuade people, props to me. That doesn't mean you have to give up on what you like. Put your foot down and argue me down.

And as evolv said, its your stage, do whatever you want, including taking positive suggestions and dismissing negative ones. When last say comes things will be different.
.. I'm done explaining my self.
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Anyway I'm sure people would agree, that we and everyone else should stay away from THAY's piece of shit sucking dick style of putting his name and annoying the fuck out of everyone because he is a 13 year old cock sucker.

[LuckyCharms]

simple as this PAUL BIG NAME = SEXY, THAY = big hairy ugly dick. someone should post with a list of who and what everyone is making ^^

[Zentrix]

If you ask me, discreet is better than sensational nameplates all over the level. Let me refer to SKAR's spawn in surf_delusion - now thats style. You can always put in more details on a wall etc, instead of using the spot for a name. IMO.
Btw, no need to be hasty with your levels! Take the time needed to do your best, VERY best. :)

[unt0uch4bl3]

If you ask me, discreet is better than sensational nameplates all over the level. Let me refer to SKAR's spawn in surf_delusion - now thats style. You can always put in more details on a wall etc, instead of using the spot for a name. IMO.
Btw, no need to be hasty with your levels! Take the time needed to do your best, VERY best. :)

Exactly, I made a reference to delusion as well about the way he did things. He put his name in the fan in the spawn as well and you can't even notice it! Thats how things should be done.

Also, I DID NOT EVEN ASK skar to put my name in the map.

[Relapse]

If you ask me, discreet is better than sensational nameplates all over the level. Let me refer to SKAR's spawn in surf_delusion - now thats style. You can always put in more details on a wall etc, instead of using the spot for a name. IMO.
Btw, no need to be hasty with your levels! Take the time needed to do your best, VERY best. :)

agreed :) this map has to be nice and uniqe as hell so dont rush at making this lvls we got plenty of time...

[kirisamemarisa]

this map is going to revive surf, so it has to be amazing.

[Mr.Demon <3]

Hmm guys if you need someone to ''test'' your stage, i'm not the best surfer but i would like to see them sooooooooo: add this mofo > dtox17

[LuckyCharms]

today im going to change the second half of my level completely ;3, it will be kept inside with windows but will keep the big curvy ramps in some way :). i fixed all hollow cylinders, took out all outside shit so no more sphere at end, and wall lights are now diamonds :3

[gorgeous gentleman]

I think we should not put our names on our levels, but have them in spawn and we can design them our own way. Think surf_legendary, that spawn is p epic and its probably my favorite spawn. It gives the feeling of "damn this map is gangster" every time I play it. However it doesnt have to be a long corridor with our names on the side. It could be a dome with everyone having an x by y brush on the perimeter to do whatever and have some epic spiral staircase in the middle to level 1, or it could be a few stories with each floor having two sides that each person can design their own way. Like it's split down the side and there are giant staircases to each new floor and finally the entrance to one. That's actually a really cool idea and we could make some crazy things.

and everyone' style is different enough that people will know who's level is who's.

I really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really want to do this

We also need to realize that we have nine people making stages. That's a lot of brush work going on. We're going to have to optimize like mad if we want the quality the map needs.

[T!cK]

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[unt0uch4bl3]

I think we should not put our names on our levels, but have them in spawn and we can design them our own way. Think surf_legendary, that spawn is p epic and its probably my favorite spawn. It gives the feeling of "damn this map is gangster" every time I play it. However it doesnt have to be a long corridor with our names on the side. It could be a dome with everyone having an x by y brush on the perimeter to do whatever and have some epic spiral staircase in the middle to level 1, or it could be a few stories with each floor having two sides that each person can design their own way. Like it's split down the side and there are giant staircases to each new floor and finally the entrance to one. That's actually a really cool idea and we could make some crazy things.

and everyone' style is different enough that people will know who's level is who's.

I really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really want to do this

We also need to realize that we have nine people making stages. That's a lot of brush work going on. We're going to have to optimize like mad if we want the quality the map needs.
Yes I also think this is best.

[Paul]

Ok I've taken the name out but I wanna use the texture as my name in the spawn.

http://i36.tinypic.com/o7raio.jpg

Also, COMPILE LOGS! We've gotta watch our percentages!


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Level flags = 0

Win32 Specific Data:
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Total triangle count: 2816
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Well actually mine is relatively low! :D

***LEAK FIXED*** :P

That's my stage DONE AND DUSTED!

Another Skybox suggestion: http://www.fpsbanana.com/textures/1522

Another good one: http://www.fpsbanana.com/textures/1087

[unt0uch4bl3]

So my suggestion to what gorgeous posted is.


Have a spawn like surf_legendary. In there there will be everyone's name, similarly like legendary but...

under each name will be a portal to the person's stage.

So the game play can be as follows:
Everyone spawns and gets to pick whatever stage they want to surf. If they can't beat it, there will be a portal back to spawn where they will be able to pick a different stage. If they do beat the stage, they will be teleported to the spawn and will be able to pick the next stage which is going to be whatever they want (and obviously they wont be able to pick the one they already beat). Once they beat every single stage this way, they will be teleported to end etc etc.

So we can have a "majestic" spiral stair case to the top and each floor will be some persons stage with their name above the teleport portal. This way stages won't be known as stage 1, stage 2, stage 3, they will be known as "stage mapmakername" etc.

Or maybe the spawn doesn't have to be a stair case it can be something else but with the same idea. This way the map maker doesn't have to whore his name in his stage.

For this we would need a truly amazing looking spawn because people will be revisiting the spawn so many times, and maybe even hanging out there.

I also made a fully functional sudoku puzzle in css sometime ago which we can put into the spawn just for the hell of it for who ever wants to solve it (if it fits of course because of the max planes).
[img_dim width=300 height=290:23ekjs85]http://i38.tinypic.com/2598g7t.jpg[/img_dim:23ekjs85]
but thats if people want, i dont care if we put it in there or not. Im just suggesting it so there will be something to do in spawn.

what do you guys think?

[razEr]

Fucking great idea untouch ;D I'd love to see that sudoku puzzle in spawn : o

[gorgeous gentleman]

That idea is awesome untouch.

[LuckyCharms]

LOVE IT UNTOCHABLE, ima make a sketch of this idea of what spawn could be with a big dome and the staircase :P then ill post it here ^^

[unt0uch4bl3]

I hope who ever designs the spawn in hammer makes it "majestic" or just awesome looking.

I already made the map system work in hammer so every player will be able to play whatever order stages he/she wants.



Great looking stair case ideas:

http://www.historigraphics.com/fox/wswainphotos/color_images/grand_staircase_lobby-color.jpg
http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_SqhhJb_P3Kk/SICG-F183dI/AAAAAAAABSo/K_Oy23gcwbU/s400/spiral-staircase.jpg
http://edit.1000words.kodak.com/uploads/418e9288-df29-4f2f-ab70-697a6767917d_original.jpg
http://www.travel-images.com/vatican28.jpg

I personally like the second, but that would be way too much walking up =p but everyone would have their own floor LOL. just some ideas =p

[kirisamemarisa]

third one

[evolv]

A gigantic I MEAN BIG spiral staircase would be fucking sick. With something crazy all over the walls.
Have the makers of each level's name under the level to choose there level~ best idea
Then we can add peoples names around the spiral staircase

[T!cK]

wow this is turning out to be fucking amazing

good job every-one

[kirisamemarisa]

hey if you want a different texture pack for the numbers throughout the map or in the sudoku puzzle you can use the ones i made

http://lodyblokady.com/?p=24

[LuckyCharms]

;/

[gorgeous gentleman]

ill post a list of what i dont like

dont take it personal

-the colors dont flow
-it doesnt have atmosphere
-portal brushes are weird looking and dont blend
-its going to be hard to integrate an outside spawn with stairs/dome because of the clipping
-the entrance to the dome is just what... you can see the end of the earth.

i might make one this weekend

[LuckyCharms]

notfinaltexturesnotfinaltexturesnotfinalANYThING.. ..
i dont love my spawn so someone else can make it. :3

[Relapse]

notfinaltexturesnotfinaltexturesnotfinalANYThING.. ..
i dont love my spawn so someone else can make it. :3

dont give up man ;) u can do this.... u got viking blood in you, vikings can build boats, i bet u can make a great spawn

[gorgeous gentleman]

:]

[evolv]

Make a magnificent, mystifying, piece of elegance, artwork, and beauty that is thoroughly modern in design, timeless in appeal, a DESTINATION THAT CAPTURES THE IMAGINATION... AND DOESNT LET GO! LIKE NOTHING ELSE, FOUND NO WHERE ELSE... surf_ksf ... EPIC

[LuckyCharms]

im creating this epic thing right now... VIKING BLOOD... ill post it later

[Zentrix]

Make a magnificent, mystifying, piece of elegance, artwork, and beauty that is thoroughly modern in design, timeless in appeal, a DESTINATION THAT CAPTURES THE IMAGINATION... AND DOESNT LET GO! LIKE NOTHING ELSE, FOUND NO WHERE ELSE... surf_ksf ... EPIC
YEAH, BEAUTIFUL! btw, if we end up having a lot of stages, small stages, combine som of them together to make a longer, more enjoyable and neverthelss creative one. Cause i personally hate those smaller ones with 1 line of ramps. If i see anything like that as a final project, its definetely going to be combined with something (IT'S AN ORDER).
Happy mapping.

[gorgeous gentleman]

let's make sure we beta test the shit out of this map

we dont want another surf_gurus xD

[evolv]

let's make sure we beta test the shit out of this map

we dont want another surf_gurus xD

yes definitally has anyone been chosen to put the various maps together?

[razEr]

let's make sure we beta test the shit out of this map

we dont want another surf_gurus xD

yes definitally has anyone been chosen to put the various maps together?

I'll be happy to do it ;) I have some experience from surf_animals surf_syria and surf_thembrium, so I guess I can pull it off, besides I have way too much time on my hands. So count on me if none else wants to.

[LuckyCharms]

SO we need lody and ryan and zoomj
i wanna finish this already 0.0 most of us have been done for like a month

[T!cK]

SO we need lody and ryan and zoomj
i wanna finish this already 0.0 most of us have been done for like a month


Lody isnt doing a stage, he gave up.

[LuckyCharms]

soooo the map is fail? :# i've heard no updates since the beginning of november

[unt0uch4bl3]

its not fail... its just taking some time. Why don't you guys message them and tell em to hurry up?

[LuckyCharms]

ive done that :3

[evolv]

Ok well lucky-charms or someone when you get the chance can we see what we have to compile? Such as levels and jails

[Paul]

Is this ever gonna get finished? If lody isn't making a stage then we have to replace him. I'm not sure if ryan is still making a stage, I'm trying to find out now.

[Blacky]

i wanna test all the stages x]

[Daniel]

idk the status anymore since lucky scewed us. We no longer have a jail, spawn, or one of the levels.

[razEr]

idk the status anymore since lucky scewed us. We no longer have a jail, spawn, or one of the levels.
Ill be more than happy to make a sexy spawn but jails Are not my thing;p

[Blacky]

has someone done his stage?

:p

[Payne]

I'll make a stage if you guys are still working on this... if you don't mind.

[Zentrix]

Payne, could you post some of your previous works like a screenshot please. Your help would be appreciated tho.

[godowner]

I wanna make a stage too :)

[T!cK]

No-ones posted in here yet, so I'll help out and organise this but I am promising NOTHING, I have not talked to any-one about this.

Previous Maps -

Specialties -

Screenshots of current capability -

I'm pretty sure they are going to be picked by name, as they can instantly tell if they are talented.
There are some nice names also working on this project, so I'm guessing we are not picking randomers unless they show some skill.

[Paul]

This map is DEAD.

[lody]

finished my stage

[Kiiru]

Lemme see

[lody]

who wants to play my stage

[Sacred]

who wants to play my stage

Just give us a DL link here?

[Kiiru]

I can't wait to get this map started :)

[Sam]

:smirk: